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G180W From Chev LUV Into Gem

Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 11:31
by Greengem20B
I have picked up another twin cam motor,this one is a G180W in a Chevy LUV ute.....

Can anyone tell me if the extractors on the motor in the LUV ute will have half a chance of fitting on the motor once inside a Gem engine bay?

Cheers

Todd.

Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 16:25
by IZU069
Probably not. It may have the 117 exhaust, oil filter, and sump.
(The 117 is based on the Florian. The Florian is a LUV sedan.)

You need the Gemini (non-winged) sump, the fwd-down filter, and the exhaust may hit the Gem engine mounts or something...

I can swap the oil filter with you.
And I'm picking up a G200W with Gem extractors this weekend - I just posted a FS "EOI" herein.

Posted: 11 Dec 2008, 09:26
by Greengem20B
It has the forward down facing oil filter housing on it and a set of custom/aftermarket extractors....not sure on the sump,didnt look "winged"

It has different engine mounts to the G200W Ive got,the 180 in the LUV has the mounts more forward of the centre of the block.

Im hoping I could use the extractors off the LUV in the Gem....if the firewall will allow it.Until I have the motor inside a Gem bay I cant test fit them.

If not I have a custom set of extractors to suit G***W in a LUV for sale :lol:

Posted: 11 Dec 2008, 11:09
by IZU069
Sounds like the Gem engined LUV is more like the Gem than the Florian.
The Gem G***W extractors didn't fit my Florian because of its behind-crossmember steering linkage.
I don't think they fitted my Wasp (Bellett ute) else I probably would not have sold them, but I can't recall why. (Steering linkages are frontside of the crossmember. Belletts like Gems are rack&pinion.)

My vehicles have engine mounts up the front. I forget now the differences between the centerish mounted Piazza, Gems & 117s.

How much are you selling the extractors for?
I'm keen of 4:2:1 with a longish 2:1 section of around 660mm (26").

Posted: 11 Dec 2008, 11:41
by Greengem20B
Was the twin cam motor a standard option in any of the LUV's?

Had a quick look on Luvtruck.com but didnt see anything to say it was.

Once I know for sure the exhaust fits or not Ill put em up for sale....price? no idea....depends on demand.

Ideally Ill be able to use them on my Gem as the exhaust is the only thing I never got with my G200W.

Let ya's know

Posted: 16 Dec 2008, 16:40
by IZU069
No - never on the LUVs. Though a few have been fitted with them.

Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 00:40
by Greengem20B
Alright motor is in and wired up with its Delco ecu from the Camira.

Go to put the oil filter on and it hits the swaybar before even screwing on,cant even get close to the angle needed to get it on as the bars there....anyone else had this problem?

Are there smaller, equivelent oil filters that are shorter in height to the Z56B?

Also the bottom radiator hose,normal Gem one wont work...any ideas? I have an AU one on it now though it sits about 2-3mm off the fan belt.

Cheers

Todd

Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 15:32
by IZU069
Maybe you need the upright filter assembly as NOT used in Gems & Piazzas?

Ryco Data:
M20-x1.5-6Hmm Thread:
Ryco part Height Overall Seal Diameter Seam Diameter
Z445 65mm 63mm 68mm
Z547 86mm 63mm 68mm
Z148A 102mm 63mm 82mm
Z495 76mm 63mm 82mm
Z79A 76mm 63mm 82mm
Z150 141mm 64mm 81mm
Z411 86mm 66mm 71mm
Z429 86mm 66mm 71mm
Z436 66mm 66mm 71mm
Z456 101mm 66mm 71mm
Z142A 80mm 66mm 87mm
Z56B 100mm 66mm 87mm
Z312 129mm 66mm 88mm
Z543 100mm 71mm 78mm
Z305 143mm 74mm 81mm
Z57A 79mm 85mm 97mm
Z178A 99mm 89mm 94mm
Z330 127mm 89mm 94mm
Z155X 83mm 98mm 105mm
Z162 126mm 98mm 105mm

Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 15:46
by elky
or maybe u need a diesel sway bar :wink:

Posted: 15 Jan 2009, 23:50
by Greengem20B
LOL all sorted....

Ended up with a tiny filter off a Mazda 121 maybe? Fits perfect, the smaller size Im told should be fine, creating a tad higher oil pressure if anything.

Anyone know if the 180W's cams are the same as the 200W's?

Ill post some pics up over next few days of the conversion.

Cheers

Todd.